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Letters to the Editor: The Cost of Water

October 30, 2010

Dear Editor:

While the Village government sorts through various questions and answers which have been raised in the news, it might be a good time for an answer to be forthcoming from the village about a big question that many of us ask one another and which no one seems able to answer: How much are we charged for water by the village, and also of considerable interest, how are we doing as regards supply?

In contrast to the postings regarding, for example, gasoline, we are not informed about the price per gallon on the bill. Nor are we given the amounts used in capacity terms. I presume it is gallons. Of course we have a limited choice as regards our water relative to our choice of gasoline and other fuels and necessities. After many years of feeling that it was not good form to ask about this matter, I feel that in view of today's economic conditions it is a legitimate question which should be answered in the fullest detail or we should be given a good reason why this information is not distributed in a simple straightforward way. Everyone knows how precious water is and how little attention is paid to this matter when compared to the fossil fuels. We will rue the day eventually when we see a situation similar to the one in the movie "The Man Who Fell To Earth," where a husband and father set off from his planet to try to find a place habitable because water was plentiful.

How can it be so difficult to let everyone in on this subject, and if appropriate, enlist our aid in dealing with this important topic. No longer can such a matter be thought of as a Village business which is confidential. Business is business!

Yours sincerely,
Porter Warren
Cornwall



Comments:

I beleive this would fall under the request for an audit by the state comproller that I made at the last meeting. here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f06zBRwmCKk
it is also at ArgenioAndrew in the youtube search box.
I also think it would be interesting to view the public comment period where this subject (village water) was brought up several times. here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwkU8L6mO1M
It is also found by going to youtube and searching my channel ArgenioAndrew.
We declined to buy 100k on wells and spent 5 million on a water treatment plant that relies on dams that we havent even done an inspection on that complies with the DEC regulations.


posted by Andrew Argenio on 10/30/10 at 11:07 AM

That means that Cornwall residents with a 25 year old toilet pay 7.28 cents per flush.. that's absurd. I am going to start collecting rain water..


posted by Bob Hustwitt on 10/30/10 at 8:34 PM

Free barrels can be had at any carwash. I collect plenty of water for all plantings every year with two 35 gallon barrels. One small rain into a ten foot gutter fills both. I ran dry only once this summer.


posted by Walter Dorritie on 10/31/10 at 10:22 AM

Bob.

Your toilet flushes 500g per flush?

Seems the village could use that come March. Maybe counter sink it into the floor of the 1st office on the right when you walk into Village Hall.


posted by Richard Bachman on 11/01/10 at 5:17 PM

If his toilet used 500 gallons per flush, he'd be paying $790 per poop. My most recent Village water bill, when I do the math, shows that one gallon of water costs us .0158 cents, including sewerage.


posted by Stephan Wilkinson on 11/02/10 at 10:20 AM

Belay that. $79 per poop.


posted by Stephan Wilkinson on 11/02/10 at 12:35 PM

Richard/Stephan, You both failed Math 101. My point was:
toilet uses 5 gallons per flush
1000 gallons water costs $14.56
1000 g divided by 5g flush =200 flushes per $14.56.....
$14.56 divided by 200 flushes equals SEVEN CENTS per flush.note this does not include disposal fees (sewerage rate)..my point is that at $14.56 per thousand gallons Cornwall residents pay significantly more than the rest of the country. Don't believe it, Google "highest water rates in US.
And yes Richard, next March we can flush our problems away at Village Hall


posted by Bob Hustwitt on 11/02/10 at 3:34 PM

Richard, I wasn't commenting on the actual cost of your toilet (or the "25-year-old toilet" you were using as an example), since I had no idea what the gallons-per-flush figure was. I was simply pointing out that Bachmann's "500 gallons per flush" was way off, because you certainly weren't paying $79 per flush.

And beyond that, I was using my Village costs--I have no idea what town costs are--and was factoring in the disposal fee, which seems only logical for a toilet.

So where exactly did I "fail Math 101"?


posted by Stephan Wilkinson on 11/02/10 at 5:07 PM

Nancy quoted that Town residents pay $14.56 per 1000g

Bob said per flush he paid $7.28.

If $7.28 is half of $14.56 per 1000g then $7.28 per flush equals 500g.

Reading comprehension much? MENSA called, they want their wallet card back fellas'.


posted by Richard Bachman on 11/02/10 at 6:33 PM

Um, ah, indeed...you're right. Never was any good at math anyway. so where do I send the Mensa card?


posted by Stephan Wilkinson on 11/02/10 at 7:11 PM

This is an old article but I had to jump in here. Bob's original post says: "7.28 cents per flush". That's 7.28 CENTS per flush ($.0728) not $7.28 per flush. :)

Regardless, it *would* be nice to know why the water in Cornwall is so darned expensive.


posted by Dean DeGennaro on 11/23/10 at 3:49 PM

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