Patrick,

If you know that the building inspector has a felony or other criminal record, then say so.

Otherwise, what you're saying--and especially the way you're saying it--is scarily reminiscent of the worst of the McCarthy era.

Make your point.

If this alleged/rumored/imagined felony doesn't have to do with inspecting buildings what difference does it make?

One of the most accomplished and competent people I know is an ex-felon.

Ted,

Accomplished and competant at what, Breaking and Entering.

Stephen,

There is nothing wrong with asking questions. I ask a simple question. Was a criminal background check done. Even WalMart does that today. The Building Inspectors job is too important not to have had him properly vetted. Need I remind you about Bernie Kerik. Nominated for Homeland Security Chief yet not vetted. Now he is on his way to jail. Important position require background checks.

Patrick,

Yes they do. But the question you asked was, basically, "So, tell me--when did you stop beating your wife?"

I don't know about you, but that's not how *I* like to do business.

How about Bruce Yancewicz Sr was accused by the State Police for buying stolen property from his son. The Building Inspector was storing stolen equipment in his home and in an abandoned house he owns in the Village of Montgomery according to Senior Investigator Joh Richichi.
He was charged with Fourth-Degree criminal Possession of stolen property a felony. After plea bargaining Mr Yancewicz pleaded guilty to 5th-degree criminal possession of stolen property, a misdemeanor was fined and released on a conditional discharge.

Now I'll ask again. Was he properly vetted or is he another Bernard Kerik who was the BEST for position of Homeland security Chief yet never vetted?

Stephan,

My point was a simple one yet no one wanted to broach the subject. Everyone wanted to keep this undercover. Ask yourself why?

You mean this:

http://archive.recordonline.com/archive/2001/11/08/pg12brie.htm

In 2001?

When the father was convicted of a misdemeanor?

You have other facts wrong in your case (assuming the Record has it right).

But the way you introduced it, perhaps, answers your larger question--that of why no one wanted to take your concerns seriously. You weave it in mystery and the strong hint of false accusations, and I imagine you get a lot of eye rolling for all your efforts.

Stephan,

I weaved nothing. I stated facts. I laid out the initial charges, the statement by the Senior Investigator and the final disposition of the case. You can know go ahead and twist it to your liking but I stated FACTS.

Pat, you started by stating questions and accusations. Only when I pushed did you state "facts." Not knowing the history of this 9 year old case, I do not know if your facts or the Record's facts are true (they're close enough, though).

Stephan,

Only when my questions were twisted by you to

>>>you're saying it--is scarily reminiscent of the worst of the McCarthy era.<<<

that I decided to state the FACTS. I wanted to see if anyone here was afraid of the truth. Now I know my answer. Not important? I think it is.

BTW, the vast amount of felonies are pled down to misdemeanors.

Yes, of course.

Bye.

I find it hard to beleive that after being convicted of a felony (what you are accusing him of) that he his still employed by the village of Montgomary and held in high esteem by the department of public works.I know this because I went there and spoke to the head of public works.If this is true wouldent they fire him? It sounds to me that the son had stolen stuff at Mr Yankowitz's house and they charged everyone. Furthermore you remove the posibility of redemtion. Can a person become better after doing a bad thing? This is such a Black and White world vew it is juvanile. I am disapointed that someone who used to be active in positive action has resorted to "tough guy typist" status.

Patrick,

What a nice snarky comment.

Since the person I referred to has a very large and successful business, is a well know philanthropist in the Philadelphia area, and sits on various community advisory and planning boards, I?m going to go out on a limb and say that, at the very least, he?s probably a lot more competent and accomplished than you.

Cheers

Mr Argenio,

>>>I find it hard to beleive that after being convicted of a felony (what you are accusing him of)<<<<

I never accused him of being convicted of a Felony. That is a Flat Out Lie.

>>>He was charged with Fourth-Degree criminal Possession of stolen property a felony. After plea bargaining Mr Yancewicz pleaded guilty to 5th-degree criminal possession of stolen property, a misdemeanor was fined and released on a conditional discharge.<<<

Those are my words.

Everything I posted was the TRUTH. Do not LIE about my posts. You should be ashamed of yourself LYING.

Ted,

>>>If this alleged/rumored/imagined felony doesn't have to do with inspecting buildings what difference does it make?<<<

How about FACT? Read my posts and NOT Mr Argenio's where he lies about my post.

I am very happy your friend has redeemed himself. That is terrific.

If the building inspector admitted he knew he was holding onto stolen equipment it concerns me. If it doesn't concern you fine.

Stephan,

Below is Mr. Argenio's quote.

"I find it hard to beleive that after being convicted of a felony (what you are accusing him of)"

You show me where in any of my posts I said that. It is not I who >>>need to get a grip and understand the difference between a lie and a mistake<<<

This is not depends on what the meaning of what the word "is" is. This is a Flat Out Lie. Mistake? It was a mistake to put LIES in my mouth.

No, it was no mistake. It was Mr Argenio LYING. He's quick to demand apologies of others. I want the truth not LIES.

Your quote.

>>>I really don't care, I have no skin in this game--but he didn't lie.<<<

If that's true show me my statement where I accused him of being convicted of a Felony. You can't because I never did. In you mind maybe you can read his mind and what he meant to say. What I see is a Flat Out Lie.

No skin in the game yet I "need to get a grip". Stephan I hope you're a writer of novels where the truth doesn't matter.

Patrick Welch

Stephan,

Fine with me. I just hope you'll stick to the truth on these boards and not interpret what a person really meant to say.

Words have consequences and the truth is plain to see.

>>>You're doing yourself no favor by flailing around and accusing everybody with whom you disagree of a variety of sins.<<<<

Everything I posted was the truth. Yes there are those who twist the truth and those who deny the truth. There always have been and always will be. There will always be those who excoriate the truth teller in order to satisfy their own agendas.

Tell a LIE long enough it becomes the truth.Goebbels

<<Goebbels>>

And there we have it, people! GODWIN'S LAW, invoked my none other than P Welch.

In accordance with all accepted informal Internet rules of engagement, this thread can now officially be closed.

And don't forget, people, as George Bernard Shaw once said, "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

Stephan,

>>>you're saying it--is scarily reminiscent of the worst of the McCarthy era.<<<

You're verbiage was no different. Disagree with someone and out comes the label of McCarthyism with zero basis in fact. Stick with your tutu it serves you better.

OMG, I get off on this stuff! I can't wait for the next discussion!!!

Kate B - "I get off on this stuff." Really, Kate???

1) This stuff is community business and effects many people. I don't think your self-satisfaction was really the intent of this website.

2) This stuff can also be considered childish and moronic. I am all for debate, discussion, and disagreement... but making fun of others misspellings, grammar, using McCarthy references, etc.............. kind of silly, no?

What is worse is that if you meet these people on Main Street or Hudson Sreet, they will wave and smile. Put a keyboard in front of them and the inner-bully boils over and the whole discussion resorts to name calling and juvenile nonsense.

Grow up! Period.

The problem with internet is that nuance, inflection, sarcasm, and a host of other expressions are severely limited in this medium. (and some o' y'all's taking it way to personally - or seriously) I enjoy a spirited discussion, I love it when folks back up an argument with facts(umm, perhaps some are made up, but let's give them an A for effort)Yes, some folks do get callous, self righteous, filled with umbrage, sanctimonious, downright mean, etc., etc., but you have to admit that it draws you in, it stimulates your mind and if nothing else, you can practice your typing. I never indicated that the purpose of this website was my 'self-satisfaction' that was all you, Jake. And you make it sound like people that disagree on the discussion boards should not speak civilly to one another when they meet on the street. You grow up. I'm going to go sprinkle fairy dust and run barefoot

And furthermore, it's educational - I have to go look up Godwin's Law so I can talk to Steve.

Yes, along those lines, it's absolutely fascinating. I have seen it occur a couple of times on this very same site and now I know that it has a name

Jake Satchel,

>>>>Grow up period<<<<

>>>>This stuff can also be considered childish and moronic.<<<<

Telling Kate to "grow up period" is a childish and moronic statement. This isn't the agree with Jake Satchel board, agree with me or your childish.

Kate is a great lady and neighbor. We don't agree on many things but I have total respect for her and consider her a friend. We can disagree and we will always be friends. That Jake is being an adult. Kate always enjoy your posts. Pat

Kate and Pat - I did not mean to offend, I just am offended when honest disagreements get buried by over-heated rhetoric. We are all in the same COMMUNITY, a word that has lost much of it's meaning in the town and village over the last 10 years. (Sadly)

I never said that Kate or anyone in this community needs to agree with anything I ever say. I enjoy heated debate and I understand that temperatures rise and fall with each issue. But I think we can all agree that name calling, petty digs and jabs, unreasonable accusations and the like are bad for the business of running any organizations, including villages.

That being said.... I do enjoy reading all that is said by Pat and Steve and Andy and Kate. :)

And I tend to learn from them.... I wish we could all listen and learn from each other more often....... but now I am the one spreading fairy dust and running barefoot!!!! ;)

Whoa! Easy does it, Pat!
Don't be raising the bar for me here!
Jake, no offense taken. Deep down inside, I am really laid back. >:-o