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General News: Bulk Trash Pick-up Changes Possible

January 06, 2011

The official bulk trash pick-up days may become a thing of the past if the Cornwall town council decides to go ahead with a proposal from highway superintendent Robert Conley. On Monday, Conley told the board that money could be saved by eliminating the advertised bulk pick-up days in April and October.

Conley also proposed that his department continue to pick up bulk items, like unwanted furniture, but that a homeowner would first call his office and request the pick-up. Other items, like metal or lumber scraps that are often left for the bulk pick-up, would be picked up along with the second regular garbage pick-up every week.

The town council members had several questions about how residents would adapt to a new system and promised to discuss it again.  Councilmembers also said they would welcome public feedback.

Conley said he made the proposal purely as a cost-savings measure. He said that during the spring and fall bulk pick-ups his department incurs a lot of overtime and noted that he believes sometimes people from other municipalities bring their items to get rid of in Cornwall.

He noted that the town of Highland Falls follows a similar practice. There is currently no discussion in the village of Cornwall-on-Hudson about making a similar change for residential bulk pick-up.



Comments:

Let people take their own bulk trash to the Town and Village depots. Might even let some residents actually use their shiny lookee-me-I-drive-a-truck pickups.


posted by Stephan Wilkinson on 01/06/11 at 6:09 PM

We pay high taxes for a reason. I'm all for saving money, but when does that savings get passed through to the tax payer?


posted by Christopher Dauerer on 01/07/11 at 9:36 AM

This is great news! It has always been a shame to me that the spring and fall foliage seasons are tainted by the heaps of garbage along our scenic roads.


posted by amy wilhelm on 01/07/11 at 10:02 AM

I would have no problem with year round pick ups if we were promised to work. I have had many an item I have put out during the year that were left behind by the trash truck. I'm talking relatively small/medium items of 10-20 lbs that aren't on the restricted list. If I take it to the curb, I want it gone. And on the occasion I have a big demolition debris pile, I take it over to the waste transfer station in Newburgh for less than $50. Lowering costs is great, but I don't want to get less for my money.


posted by J Klein on 01/07/11 at 10:09 AM

Village of Monroe has been doing this for some time now and it works really well.


posted by Kerry Merritt on 01/07/11 at 10:40 AM

i think that's a great idea
most municipalities do it that way. And you will save money. Go Bob!


posted by william brauer on 01/07/11 at 10:56 AM

AFAIK, TVs are never picked up by the town. You have to make arrangements to dispose of them. I don't understand why so many people can't seem to figure that out.

As for the "scavengers", yeah, it's a little disconcerting having people "casing" the neighborhood but I've always considered it a form of recycling. I may not need this BBQ grill anymore but if Joe Scavenger wants it for parts or to trade it in as scrap metal, more power to him.

After 10 years living in Cornwall and now living in New Windsor I can tell you that I was already disappointed to have to give up this service. Not only does New Windsor not do this they use mechanized garbage trucks (from a private sanitation co.) so if it doesn't fit in the big plastic bin it doesn't get picked up. Be glad you still have human beings doing this job in Cornwall because you will miss it if/when it's gone.


posted by Dean DeGennaro on 01/07/11 at 10:59 AM

are you kidding me ?...we pay high taxes to have something like this...maybe drop it to once a year fall clean up-but don't take it away !...scavenger pickers are great, they take appox 1/3 of the stuff and that saves money... plus good hearted people put good usefull stuff out there so people can have it too...lots of people in town don't have a pick-up truck to go to the dump ..what a disapointment to think this would be eliminated..


posted by Linda Bates on 01/07/11 at 11:27 AM

"Conley also proposed that his department continue to pick up bulk items, like unwanted furniture, but that a homeowner would first call his office and request the pick-up." To Mr.DeGennaro and others who talked about "eliminating the service; as I read it the service will not be eliminated, just selective. The homeowner must be responsible for calling to request pick-up. This sounds like a good, cost-effective measure to me. Why have trucks rolling through the streets to pick up bulk in areas where they may be just one or two homes. If it saves money, I'm all for it. Hopefully any money saved will be passed along to the taxpayer in the form of no NEW taxes.


posted by Lillian Rhoades on 01/07/11 at 12:06 PM

I totally agree with Amy that it was so sad seeing the junk all over our town during the Fall and Spring. My family used to visit every Easter and wonder why Cornwall residents always had junk piles in their yards.


posted by Shelley Gray on 01/07/11 at 12:39 PM

Cut backs are expected. Times are tough.

Eliminating the service completely is unacceptable. If you cannot figure out a way to make it work, you should search for new employment. You may be in way over your head.

Also, the town and village should advice homeowners/residents that certain items should be discarded in a proper manner at a facility that is equipped to take a Television, or hazardous materials, like paint, or motor oil. You don't HAVE to wait for town clean up day to come to discover that they won't accept certain items, therefore leaving them in your front yard, hoping some passerby might want to take them home.

And complaining about the trash piles that are visible for two weeks out of the year? give me a break. This spring, I'll leave a box of tissues outside my place for you.


posted by Tom Buttner on 01/07/11 at 6:47 PM

What a strange post. Why is eliminating the service completely "unacceptable"? Seems perfectly acceptable to me. Why can't residents take their own trash to the Town and Village depots? Borrow a friend's pickup truck or station wagon. Put them in your car's trunk and make two or three trips, and you can do it any time of year, no need to wait for some special day. If you can't figure that out, yes, "you may be in way over your head."

The Town and Village -do- "advice" homeowners that TVs, computer monitors, paint and oil are not acceptable. Read the pick-up notices in the Local, they make that quite plain. And is there anybody out there competent enough to change their own oil who doesn't know that every garage in the area happily takes drainage oil, since they sell it to recyclers?

On the one hand you gripe about people leaving items in their front yard and on the other you deride posters "complaining about trash piles." Make up your mind.

The way to make cutbacks is not to look for the million-dollar line item that can magically be eliminated, it's the $3,000 here, $4,000 there, $2,000 somewhere else. It all adds up, and I commend the municipal people who are looking for such savings and certainly don't feel they should "look for new employment."


posted by Stephan Wilkinson on 01/07/11 at 10:38 PM

We are way too spoiled in thetown and village with 2 garbage days a week. Get rid of one and you might save on fuel and pollution. It's absolutely ridiculous. Until I moved here 7 years ago I had never heard of TWO trash days a week and I have lived all over this state. If people have a problem with this...learn to compost and recycle.


posted by Ivy Levinson on 01/07/11 at 11:06 PM

One more thing......how much waste can a family accumulate in THREE days???? My pick-up is Monday AM and Thursday AM and there are days we only have one bag. This is a waste of waste. I say get rid of the one day a week (52 pick-ups a year) Vs. the two bulk pick-ups a year. Simple Math reveals this no-brainer.


posted by Ivy Levinson on 01/07/11 at 11:22 PM

Absolutely. Agree entirely. I put garbage out once every two weeks.


posted by Stephan Wilkinson on 01/07/11 at 11:42 PM

Our family consists of 2 adults and 2 children we fill up a 20 gallon can twice a week and our recycling they take up 4 cans at least. I often wonder if others recycle when I see multiple cans consistently twice a week. Isn't it cheaper for the village to drop off recycling vs. household garbage?

I personally wouldn't mind calling up dpw in order to set up a bulk pickup. With 2 children sometimes I feel uncomfortable when caravans of strangers ride up and down our streets even though they are quite courteous and all the junk around keeps them at a minimum speed. And I also must say we have the finest guys at the dpw they are also courteous and treat our village with respect. The town, I see empty garbage cans thrown about after emptied, trash left behind and a TV on Angola road on the way to Jones Farm that has been there for over a month. Even though a Television is not proper for pickup it is the dpw's responsibility to go after the homeowner to remedy the situation. I am assuming the town has way too much on their plate.


posted by J Buescher on 01/08/11 at 8:22 AM

Has anyone ever had the pleasure of being in a position of juggling bills, and had to ask for help with a pick up to move things because they could not afford to rent a U Haul?? I know bulk pick up in a bit different, but the fact is we debate in this town about taxes because not everyone can afford them... Some of those people are trying to hold onto property that has been in their families for years ... If the bulk pick up is eliminated is this going to reduce the amount we have to pay for garbage pick up?? Because if it doesnt think about the people that will be stuck for bulk items, yet are still scraping to pay for that monthly trash bill ... they do exist in this town... I would personally rather have to deal with bulk pick up being eliminated, rather than the full time officers jobs - if given the choice of either or ... But my mother was disabled, and I know that when she lived in my house it was hard enough for her to get people to come help her bring things to the road, let alone have to find someone with a vehicle that would help transport those things ... I could deal with it being once a year, I think it would consider those people also ... And as someone who lives on Rt 218, the "scavengers" that come looking at junk are no different from the other random people who stop to ask for directions on a regular basis ... it is just that most people do not notice they are traveling through the town at times other than when the stop to rummage for garbage ...


posted by Melissa Vellone on 01/08/11 at 1:37 PM

One question though ... if we will be able to call for request of certain items to be picked up, how will the people working know who called ... who is going to be responsible for making sure that the requested items are not ignored, but that everyone doesnt start randomly leaving things outside?


posted by Melissa Vellone on 01/08/11 at 1:51 PM

Wow! Calling people "scavengers", sounds pretty stuck-up. These people are your neighbors for the most part. Granted a few may be from further flung locations, they are still not necessarily criminal low-lifes. How perfect life must be in someone's little world to acknowledge those filthy animals from your ivory tower. By my own estimates, they carry away more than half the "junk" that finds its way to my curb. That's cost savings right there! I say, "welcome scavengers!"


posted by J Klein on 01/08/11 at 6:42 PM

I "scavenged" a professional drafting table worth probably several thousand dollars, needed a tiny bit of cleanup, from a neighbor who put it out with a sign, "Please take this, I can't use it any more." And I often put out perfectly good stuff that I hope somebody will take; they always do.


posted by Stephan Wilkinson on 01/08/11 at 7:19 PM

And I recognize they said that it was not being discussed in the Village of COH, but as a COH resident I pay both sets of taxes ... I think when considering what "tax payers" in the Village are willing to pay we should look at things as a whole ... it might help with deciding what is important to cut in these times.


posted by Melissa Vellone on 01/09/11 at 8:05 AM

I agree with Conley that this service needs to be modified. As for the garbage picking (I'm a reformed picker). I have found that they are a nuisance. I have put out perfectly good electronic items and they rip out the cords for the wire (how much money is that really worth?) It can be creepy and yes we are a nice community with some upscale homes, mid scale and lower income neighborhoods. There is nothing wrong with having money and not wanting garbage pickers coming through our community. eliminate the bulk, I'll call Bob and his friendly staff. They always take my GARBAGE even when I put a (small) bulk item out throughout the year.


posted by j h on 01/10/11 at 9:57 PM

Do they use the same trucks for garbage and the large items, or will they need to take an entire other truck to pick up the bulk or scrap items?? How does it make it cost effective more than just limiting bulk pick up to once a year?


posted by Melissa Vellone on 01/11/11 at 3:03 PM

How about plastic and glass recycling gets picked up every week instead of alternating with yard waste pick up. Then, the second garbage day could be eliminated and replaced with yard waste pick up every other week. So every other week you have eliminated a day of pick up, saving gas and time.


posted by A Krakowka on 01/21/11 at 5:19 PM

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